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  • 1 FORGIVE

    \#avatyar- (imperative avatyara and the pl. aorist avatyarir are attested). The matter that is forgiven is the direct object, whereas the person that is forgiven appears in the ablative case: avatyara mello lucassemmar, "forgive us [lit. from us] our debts". This verb \#avatyar- occurs in certain versions of Tolkien's Quenya rendering of the Lord's Prayer; in the latest version he introduced the verb apsene- "remit, release, forgive" instead, with a slightly different syntax: the matter forgiven is still the direct object, but the person forgiven now appears in the dative case. The exact etymology of apsene- is somewhat obscure; the prefix ap- is apparently derived from a root AB- in a meaning which Tolkien according to other sources abandoned (see VT43:18-19); also, it is unclear whether the final –e of apsene- is just the connecting vowel of the aorist (before endings we would rather expect *apseni-) or an integral part of the verbal stem, which would make this an "E-stem" verb otherwise hardly attested. The verb apsene- is once attested with the object ending -t "them" attached: apsenet "[as we] forgive them". The alternative verb \#avatyar- is for many reasons less problematic and may be preferred by writers. –VT43:8, 9, 18-20

    Quettaparma Quenyallo (English-Quenya) > FORGIVE

  • 2 ROOT, ROOTWORD

    sundo (Þ) (pl \#sundar in Tarmasundar "Roots of the Pillar" in UT:166, but this may be a different word) (base), talma (foundation), sulca (esp. edible root) –SUD (but VT46:16 indicates that Tolkien changed the root to STUD, also implying that sundo was originally Þundo), TAL, SÚLUK

    Quettaparma Quenyallo (English-Quenya) > ROOT, ROOTWORD

  • 3 WHEN

    The question-word “at what time?” is unattested, though paraphrases are possible (e.g. *mana i lú yassë menuvas? “what’s the time that he will go?” for “when will he go?”) “When” introducing a statement of time appears as írë in Fíriel’s Song (írë Anarinya queluva, “when my sun faileth”, LR:72). Another example has yá (in a phrase translated “when winter comes”, VT49:23), but different meanings (“formerly, ago”) are ascribed to the word yá elsewhere, possibly leaving írë less ambiguous (though this word itself must be distinguished from írë “desire”). In phrases like “the day when we came”, yassë “in which” may be used.

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