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  • 1 WITH

    For the purpose of Neo-Quenya writing, the best translation of "with" (in the sense of "together with") is probably \#as, attested with a pronominal suffix (see below). A string of various prepositional elements meaning "with" are attested, but all are probably not meant to coexist in the same form of Quenya; rather Tolkien often changed his mind about the details. The preposition lé, le found in early material (QL:52) is probably best avoided in LotR-style Quenya (in which langauge le is rather the pronoun "you"). Tolkien later seems to be experimenting with yo and ó/o as words for "with"; yo hildinyar in SD:56 probably means *"with my heirs", and VT43:29 reproduces a table where various pronouns are suffixed to ó-, probably meaning "with" (óni *"with me", ólë *"with you", etc.) In the essay Quendi and Eldar, Tolkien assigns a dual meaning to ó- as a prefix; it was used "in words describing the meeting, junction, or union of two things or persons, or of two groups thought of as units" (WJ:367; cf. 361 regarding the underlying stem WO, said to be a dual adverb "together"). The plural equivalent of dual ó- is yo- (as in yomenië, WJ:407 cf. 361 regarding the underlying root JŌ), and it may seem to be this yo that occurs as an independent preposition in yo hildinyar in SD:56. The idea that ó- is a distinctly dual form does not appear in all sources; in VT43:29 we have forms like *ómë *"with us", implying at least three persons. In Tolkien's drafts for a Quenya rendering of the Hail Mary, he experimented with various prepositional elements for the phrase "with thee" (see VT43:29). A form carelyë was replaced with aselyë in the final version. Removing the ending -lyë "thee" and the connecting vowel before it leaves us with \#as as the word (or a word) for "with"; this is ultimately related to the conjunction ar "and" (see VT43:30, 47:31). – In English, the preposition "with" may also have an instrumental force, which is best rendered by the Quenya instrumental case (e.g. *nambanen "with [= using] a hammer").

    Quettaparma Quenyallo (English-Quenya) > WITH

  • 2 HORN

    rassë, rasco ("especially on living animal, but also applied to mountains". Cf. Rasmund "horned bull" in Letters:423 [this seems like Sindarin rather than Quenya] and Arfanyaras, Arfanyarassë "high white-shining peak [*horn]", alternative name of Taniquetil), romba (so in Etym and one place in WJ [p. 400: romba = "horn, trumpet"] but on p. 368 róma is used for "horn", though this is glossed "trumpet-sound" in Etym), HORN OF ULMO hyalma (shell, conch), tildë (point), (horn of animal:) tarca (probably obsoleting taru in LT2); HORNED tarucca (perhaps obsoleted together with taru), THE HORNED Tilion (a name of the Moon) –RAS/VT46:10, WJ:403/416, ROM/WJ:401 contrast 368, SYAL, TIL, TARÁK, LT2:337,347, Silm:438

    Quettaparma Quenyallo (English-Quenya) > HORN

  • 3 ME

    Certain Tolkien manuscripts supposedly provide nye as one word for “me” (compare tye “thee”). It may be, however, that in Tolkien’s later conception ni, ní “I” can also be used as object “me” (in late material it listed together with other pronouns that are attested both as subject and object, such as lye, sé and me, VT49:51). The ending -n, attested only as subject, may perhaps be employed following another pronominal ending: *Utúvielyen, "thou (-lye-) hast found me (-n)”. Case endings may be added to ni, e.g. dative nin "for me" (Nam). See I.

    Quettaparma Quenyallo (English-Quenya) > ME

  • 4 RAIN

    mistë (fine rain), rossë (fine rain, dew, spray), ucco; RAINBOW helyanwë (lit. "sky-bridge"), Ilweran, Ilweranta. (LT2 has iluquinga "sky-bow", but this was obsoleted together with ilu "sky"; see SKY.) –MIZD, ROS cf. Letters:282, GL:74, 3EL, LT1:256, LT2:348

    Quettaparma Quenyallo (English-Quenya) > RAIN

  • 5 BARK

    (noun) – Tolkien originally thought that parma "book" really meant "skin, bark; parchment", with "book, writings" as the secondary meaning. But in Etym parma is derived from a stem meaning "compose, put together", obsoleting the old etymology. –LT2:346, contrast PAR

    Quettaparma Quenyallo (English-Quenya) > BARK

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  • together with — (something) and also something. The cost of food together with drinks and prizes made it an expensive party …   New idioms dictionary

  • together with — ► together with as well as. Main Entry: ↑together …   English terms dictionary

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  • together with — adverb in conjunction with; combined our salaries put together couldn t pay for the damage we couldn t pay for the damages with all our salaries put together • Syn: ↑jointly, ↑collectively, ↑conjointly • Derived from adjective: ↑conjoint …   Useful english dictionary

  • together with — {prep.} In addition to; in the company of; along with. * /John, together with his brother, has gone to the party./ * /The police found a knife, together with the stolen money, hidden in a hollow tree./ …   Dictionary of American idioms

  • together with — {prep.} In addition to; in the company of; along with. * /John, together with his brother, has gone to the party./ * /The police found a knife, together with the stolen money, hidden in a hollow tree./ …   Dictionary of American idioms

  • together\ with — prep. In addition to; in the company of; along with. John, together with his brother, has gone to the party. The police found a knife, together with the stolen money, hidden in a hollow tree …   Словарь американских идиом

  • together with —  , along with  With in both expressions is a preposition, not a conjunction, and therefore does not govern the verb.  This sentence is wrong: They said the man, a motor mechanic, together with a 22 year old arrested a day earlier, were being… …   Bryson’s dictionary for writers and editors

  • together with something — phrase in addition to something else Your sandwich, together with Carl’s salad, came to £8.50. Thesaurus: also and additionalsynonym Main entry: together …   Useful english dictionary

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